In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson sit down with Triada Stampas, President and CEO of Fulfill Food Bank in New Jersey, for a conversation that challenges how we think about solving hunger in America.

Triada brings a unique perspective shaped by her journey through public policy, government oversight, and food banking leadership. What began as an investigation into SNAP access in New York City became a defining moment—revealing how systems, not effort, often stand between families and the food they need. That insight continues to shape her approach today.

At Fulfill, Triada is leading with a mindset that goes beyond food distribution to focus on outcomes, equity, and long-term food security. She shares how her organization is balancing scale with proximity—being large enough to influence systems, yet close enough to understand community-level impact. From zip code-level strategies to a deeper focus on the “edges” where people are often missed, her work highlights the tension between efficiency and effectiveness in the charitable food system.

This episode explores the difference between addressing hunger and creating food security, the role of policy in shaping outcomes, and the kind of leadership required to question systems that may be producing exactly the results they were designed to deliver.

It’s a conversation about perspective, courage, and the willingness to ask a harder question: not just how we do more—but whether we should be doing something different.

Triada’s story begins far from traditional food banking. Drawn first to medicine, then public policy, then politics, she found her way into the work through a New York City investigation into SNAP access. What she discovered changed the trajectory of her career: families were struggling to afford food while billions in federal nutrition benefits were being left unused because systems had been designed with barriers instead of access. That realization hooked her.

Her leadership reflects a rare combination of policy intelligence, human curiosity, and systems thinking. Raised in Queens in a deeply multicultural community and trained in both social anthropology and public policy, Triada brings a wide worldview to food banking — one that balances data with dignity and numbers with the real lives behind them.

At Fulfill, that perspective is shaping a food bank that is big enough to operate at a systems level, but small enough to see what is happening community by community. Triada described Fulfill’s work at the zip-code level, asking not simply how to move more food, but whether food and resources are reaching the places that are easiest to miss. Her insight was clear: efficiency matters, but if the work only aims for the middle, the most vulnerable people may remain on the edges.

The conversation sharpened a core truth for Food Secure Nation: food insecurity will not be solved by effort alone. Food banks are working hard, but leadership must be willing to question whether the systems we have built are producing the outcomes we say we want. Triada Stampas represents the kind of leader this moment requires — thoughtful, courageous, policy-smart, and unwilling to accept that “more of the same” is enough.

Creating a food secure nation requires leaders who can see the whole system and still notice the edges. That is where the next level of the work begins.

Big enough to shape systems.
Small enough to see people.

Triada Stampas

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Triada Stampas

Triada Stampas is the President and CEO of Fulfill Food Bank, where she is helping redefine what it means to create food security at the community level. With a background spanning public policy, government oversight, and hunger advocacy, Triada brings a systems-focused approach to food banking that blends strategy, dignity, and what she calls “policy smarts.”

Before leading Fulfill, Triada held leadership roles at the Food Bank For New York City and Community FoodBank of New Jersey. Her journey into the work began through public service in New York City government, where investigations into SNAP access and systemic barriers to food assistance ignited her passion for fighting hunger at scale. A graduate of Columbia University, Triada combines analytical rigor with a deeply human understanding of the communities food banks serve. She also serves nationally with Feeding America through the Public Engagement Advisory Committee (PEAC).

Triada Stampas

President and CEO of Fulfill Food Bank

What makes a great leader in the fight against food insecurity?

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson sit down with Trisha Cunningham, President and CEO of the North Texas Food Bank, to explore leadership rooted in curiosity, humility, innovation, and continuous learning.

From her 30-year executive career at Texas Instruments to leading one of the nation’s most influential food banks, Trisha shares why listening matters, how strong cultures are built, and why the future of food banking will depend on balancing standardization, local innovation, people-centered leadership, and technology. The conversation challenges leaders to stop waiting for perfect answers and start building better systems — together.

This episode of Food Secure Nation explores the kind of leadership required to build a food secure nation: leadership rooted not only in success, but in significance. Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson welcome Trisha Cunningham, President and CEO of the North Texas Food Bank and Vice Chair of Feeding America’s National Advisory Council, for a conversation about curiosity, humility, continuous learning, and the discipline required to lead through complexity.

Trisha’s journey from a 30-year executive career at Texas Instruments to food banking offers a powerful example of how business experience can be transformed into mission-centered leadership. She describes her move into nonprofit work as a kind of “graduation” — taking the skills, relationships, and lessons developed in the corporate world and applying them where they could create deeper human impact. Her story reinforces a central truth: great leaders do not arrive fully formed. They keep learning, listening, adapting, and growing.

A key theme of the conversation is the importance of listening before leading. Trisha shares how one of the most important leadership lessons she learned was not needing to speak first. For leaders, especially those surrounded by talented teams and complex challenges, creating space for others to speak is not passive — it is strategic. It allows better ideas to surface, strengthens trust, and helps organizations avoid the “cost of silence.”

The conversation also explores the balance between empowerment and alignment. Trisha emphasizes that leaders do not need to know everything, but they must hire strong people, empower them, set clear expectations, and stay aligned enough to support them when decisions get difficult.

Looking ahead, Trisha identifies two sources of hope: people and technology. She believes deeply in the compassion, creativity, and commitment of those working across the food banking network. At the same time, she sees technology and artificial intelligence as tools that can help food banks better understand neighbor needs, connect people to resources, reduce complexity, and improve service.

Ultimately, this conversation reminds us that food security will not be achieved by fear-based leadership or by waiting until every answer is perfect. It will require leaders who are willing to listen, learn, decide, adapt, and grow. That is how we will build a food secure nation.

We’re not going to let whatever challenges are thrown our way stop us from moving forward. The people and the passion are what make this work special, and if we stay mission-centered, keep the neighbor at the center, and continue learning from one another, we will keep innovating, adapting, and building something better together.

Trisha Cunningham

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Trisha Cunningham

Trisha Cunningham is President and CEO of the North Texas Food Bank, a $200 million nonprofit working to eradicate hunger across a diverse 12-county service area. Before joining NTFB in 2017, Trisha spent 30 years at Texas Instruments, where she held senior leadership roles in global communications, corporate citizenship, philanthropy, and community engagement.

A first-generation college graduate from western Kentucky, Trisha brings both business discipline and deep humility to the work of food security. Her leadership is marked by curiosity, listening, innovation, and a commitment to investing in people. She also serves as Vice Chair of Feeding America’s National Advisory Council, helping shape network-wide thinking on how food banks can better serve neighbors, strengthen communities, and build a more food secure nation.

Trisha Cunningham

President and CEO of the North Texas Food Bank

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson welcome Jason Jakubowski, president and CEO of Connecticut Foodshare, for a conversation about leadership, trust, and the power of doing hard things well.

Jason shares the story behind merging two legacy food banks into one unified statewide organization—an effort that strengthened efficiency, amplified impact, and created a single voice for fighting food insecurity across Connecticut. More than a story about structure, this episode highlights what happens when courage, competence, and mission come together to better serve families and communities.

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson sit down with Jason Jakubowski, President and CEO of Connecticut Foodshare, for a compelling conversation about leadership, trust, and what it truly takes to drive meaningful impact in the nonprofit sector.

At a time when nonprofits are being tested not just on their intentions—but on their competence—Jason’s story stands out. He shares the journey behind one of the most significant structural decisions in recent food banking history: the merger of two long-standing food banks into a single, unified organization serving the entire state of Connecticut.

What makes this story powerful isn’t just the outcome—it’s how it was done. Grounded in a clear and disciplined commitment to “what’s best for the people of Connecticut,” the merger required leaders to set aside history, ego, and institutional identity in favor of mission. The result is a stronger, more efficient organization—saving $1.8 million annually, reinvesting those dollars directly into service, and creating a unified voice that strengthens partnerships with donors, government, and the communities they serve.

But the real impact goes beyond efficiency. Connecticut Foodshare now distributes approximately 47 million meals annually, reaching every corner of the state with greater consistency and coordination. The merger has enabled faster response to crises, stronger donor confidence, and a more effective system designed around people—not geography or legacy structures.

Jason also reflects on the deeper lessons of leadership—how culture is built over time, why people matter more than process, and how trust is earned through action, especially when decisions are difficult. His perspective reinforces a central theme of the show: trust and competence are not separate ideas—they are inseparable, and together, they determine whether progress is possible.

This episode is more than a conversation about organizational change. It is a case study in what happens when leaders align around mission, commit to doing the hard work, and follow through with discipline. It’s a reminder that the path to a food secure nation will require not just good intentions, but bold decisions, shared purpose, and leadership willing to put the community first.

We made a commitment early—no winners, no losers. Just what’s best for the people of Connecticut.

Jason Jakubowski

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Jason Jakubowski

Jason Jakubowski is the President and CEO of Connecticut Foodshare, where he leads a unified, statewide effort to address food insecurity across all 169 communities in Connecticut. Under his leadership, two legacy food banks were successfully merged into a single organization—an ambitious move that strengthened efficiency, expanded impact, and created a more coordinated response for families in need.

In addition to his leadership at Connecticut Foodshare, Jason has spent more than two decades teaching political science at both the University of Connecticut and Central Connecticut State University. His work in the classroom keeps him connected to emerging leaders and evolving perspectives, reinforcing a leadership style rooted in continuous growth.

Jason Jakubowski

President and CEO of Connecticut Foodshare

Behind every meal served is a system most people never see.

In this episode, Liz Lowe shares her journey from growing up in a food-insecure household to helping organizations across the country build sustainable funding strategies. Alongside Phil and Gerry Brisson, she explores how funding, relationships, and lived experience come together to shape what’s possible in the fight for food security.

This episode flips a core assumption on its head: food banks don’t run on food—they run on funding. And until we fully confront that truth, we will keep limiting what’s possible.

Joined by Liz Lowe, a national fund development leader with lived experience of food insecurity, Phil and Gerry Brisson unpack a reality hiding in plain sight—the way we fund the mission is shaping the mission itself. Every meal distributed, every truck on the road, every partnership formed is not just an act of service—it’s the result of a financial system quietly determining scale, consistency, and impact.

Liz brings both personal conviction and professional clarity, reframing fund development from a “support function” to a central operating force. This isn’t transactional—it’s structural. Funding fuels infrastructure, drives access, enables dignity, and ultimately determines whether the system expands…or stalls.

It challenges the field to rethink who must be at the table and what truly drives change. People experiencing hunger bring essential insight the system cannot afford to ignore. Real progress happens when that perspective is aligned with strong leadership, smart strategy, and sustainable funding.

Because in the end, if we want better outcomes, we can’t just move more food.

We have to rethink what’s underneath it.

Funding isn’t separate from the mission—it’s what allows the mission to exist consistently.

Liz Lowe

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Liz Lowe

Liz Lowe is Vice President of Client Relations at the Allegiance Group, partnering with mission-driven organizations to strengthen fund development and build sustainable revenue systems. With over 20 years of experience in the charitable food sector—and lived experience growing up in a food-insecure household—Liz brings both insight and authenticity to her work. She is increasingly using her voice to elevate the realities of food insecurity and advocate for solutions grounded in dignity, community, and long-term impact.

Liz Lowe

Vice President of Client Relations at the Allegiance Group

This episode goes beyond inspiration and gets to the real challenge at the heart of food security: not a lack of caring, not a lack of ideas, but a lack of connection.

Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson reflect on decades of experience to unpack why so much good work struggles to scale, and why better frameworks, shared learning, and the Six Dimensions of Food Security may be the key to moving from isolated effort to real national progress. If you want to understand what connects the voices, vision, and momentum behind Food Secure Nation, this is the episode that brings it all together.

This episode of Food Secure Nation pulls back the curtain on a hard truth: food insecurity has never been a problem of caring, or even a lack of good ideas. It has been a problem of connection.

After decades of experience across communities, systems, and even continents, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson confront a reality many in the field feel but rarely name. Progress is happening, but the system still feels stuck. Why? Because some of the best thinking is still happening in isolation. Great ideas emerge, inspire, and then disappear before they can be shared, tested, and scaled.

This conversation marks a turning point, because it does more than name the problem. It begins to name the path forward.

Through the lens of Know Better, Do Better, we introduce a more powerful way ahead, rooted in shared learning, practical application, and a unifying framework: the Six Dimensions of Food Security. From something as simple as winter squash to complex healthcare partnerships, they show how better thinking can sharpen decisions, strengthen systems, and unlock better outcomes, often without adding cost.

This is where the conversation moves beyond commentary. It becomes an invitation.
With a vision to connect leaders, ideas, and real-world pilots across the country, this episode lays the groundwork for a new kind of progress, one that turns insight into action and isolated effort into collective impact.

Because the future of food security will not be built by working harder in silos.

It will be built when we learn together, act together, and scale what works.

And as the guys remind us:
“The challenge was never knowledge… it was connection.”

Hope is a dangerous thing… if it never turns into strategy.

Gerry Brisson

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What does food security actually look like when you zoom out and see the whole system?

In this episode, Joree Novotny and Mandy Pullaro return to unpack the six dimensions of food security—not as theory, but as lived reality from a statewide lens. From balancing limited resources with dignity and choice, to redefining the role of people experiencing hunger as partners in the solution, this conversation challenges how we think about impact. Along the way, they connect food insecurity to economic stability, health, and housing—revealing that lasting progress doesn’t come from doing more of the same, but from aligning systems around the people they serve.

In this powerful follow-up conversation, Joree Novotny and Mandy Pullaro move beyond theory and into the real-world tension of building food security across all six dimensions—availability, access, utilization, stability, sustainability, and agency. What becomes clear quickly is this: food security isn’t a checklist—it’s a balancing act.

From their vantage point leading statewide systems, Joree and Mandy unpack the hard truth that these dimensions don’t always align neatly. Limited resources can strain the ability to prioritize dignity and choice. Systems built for emergency response are now carrying the weight of chronic need. And yet, within that tension lies opportunity—if we’re willing to rethink the system itself.

A defining theme of the episode is agency—not as a luxury, but as a multiplier. When people experiencing hunger are treated as participants rather than recipients, outcomes improve—not just for individuals, but for entire households and systems. The conversation challenges long-held assumptions and reframes food insecurity as deeply connected to economic stability, health, and housing—not just food supply.

The episode also brings a powerful shift in perspective: the people we serve are not problems to be solved—they are essential partners in the solution. Through listening sessions, policy engagement, and lived-experience storytelling, both leaders demonstrate how systems become more effective when they are built with people, not for them.

And then comes the gut-check: we reveal what we truly believe by how we behave. Whether it’s how we treat donors, partners, or neighbors seeking support, the system reflects our values in action. That question lingers—and it should.

This episode doesn’t offer easy answers. Instead, it offers something more valuable: a clearer lens. One that shows food security as an interconnected system requiring alignment, humility, and leadership at every level.

Because when those six dimensions begin to move together—that’s when transformation becomes possible.

Our network was built for emergencies—but today, we’re part of people’s ongoing strategy for stability.

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Joree Novotny

Executive Director, Ohio Association of Food Banks

Joree Novotny leads the Ohio Association of Food Banks, where she works at the intersection of policy, partnership, and large-scale food distribution to strengthen food security across the state. A respected voice in the national hunger relief network, Joree is known for aligning diverse stakeholders—from food banks to government leaders—around practical solutions that improve access and outcomes for families. Her leadership reflects a deep commitment to systems change, ensuring that resources move not just efficiently, but with purpose and impact.

Mandy Pullaro

Chief Executive Officer, Feeding Colorado

Mandy Pullaro serves as CEO of Feeding Colorado, where she brings together a statewide network of food banks to advance coordinated solutions to hunger. With a strong focus on collaboration, advocacy, and innovation, Mandy helps bridge the gap between local service and statewide strategy. She is recognized for elevating the role of state associations as critical connectors—turning shared insight into unified action that strengthens the entire food security system.

“When you center the person experiencing hunger, everything else gets clearer — strategy, partnerships, even accountability.”

As she steps down as CEO of Feeding America, Claire Babineaux-Fontenot shares the leadership philosophy that helped reshape the national hunger conversation. At the heart of it: agency. What happens when people experiencing hunger are no longer on the margins—but at the center of decision-making? This episode explores the courage, tension, and impact of that shift.

 

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson welcome Claire Babineaux-Fontenot, CEO of Feeding America, for a conversation about leadership, dignity, and the evolution of the national hunger-relief movement. As Claire prepares transition from her role leading the nation’s largest hunger-relief network, she reflects the leadership lessons, cultural shifts, and strategic decisions that helped reshape how the Feeding America network understands its mission.

At the heart of the conversation is a simple but transformative idea: the charitable food system does not exist to serve institutions—it exists to serve people experiencing hunger. Claire describes how, early in her tenure, she challenged two competing assumptions within large systems: that national organizations should either direct the work of local partners or simply serve them. Instead, she reframed from the mission around a shared commitment—food banks, national leaders, partners, and communities working together as co-equals in service to families facing hunger.

This shift helped reorient the network’s thinking toward the lived experience of people facing food insecurity. Rather than treating individuals experiencing hunger as passive recipients of charity, Claire and the network began recognizing them as experts in their own experience. By elevating lived expertise—listening to people not just as storytellers but as guides for decision-making—the network began asking better questions and designing better solutions.

One example came during the development of Feeding America’s first federated Network Strategic Framework. While leaders discussed how the system should improve data collection, a participant with lived experience challenged the group with a simple insight: if data truly serves people facing hunger, then it should help them answer the most immediate question—Where can I find food? That moment reshaped the conversation and demonstrated how centering lived experience can sharpen strategy and reveal blind spots that institutions alone might miss.

Claire also reflects on a powerful moment during the White House Conference on Hunger, Nutrition, and Health, where she brought individuals with lived experience as her “entourage.” When offered a seat among dignitaries at the front of the room, she chose instead to sit in the back with the individuals whose voices had helped shape national policy. In that moment, as one woman realized the President of the United States was speaking words drawn from her own story, Claire witnessed what true agency looks like—when people experiencing hunger are not spoken for but heard.

Throughout the conversation, Claire emphasizes that meaningful change in complex social systems requires both humility and courage. Leaders must be willing to evolve, to acknowledge past assumptions, and to build systems that invite participation rather than impose solutions. When people experiencing hunger are seen as partners in solving the problem—not as problems to be solved—the path to lasting progress becomes clearer.

As the episode concludes, Knight and Brisson reflect on Claire’s legacy: a leadership style rooted in compassion, curiosity, and truth-telling. By helping the hunger-relief network refocus on dignity, agency, and collaboration, Claire’s influence continues to shape how communities across the country work together to build a more food secure nation.

Agency doesn’t slow the work down. It makes the work finally fit.

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Claire Babineaux-Fontenot is the outgoing CEO of Feeding America, the nation’s largest hunger-relief organization. A nationally recognized leader on poverty, dignity, and systems change, she has guided the network through some of the most challenging moments in recent history — including the COVID-19 pandemic and rising food insecurity across the country.

Before joining Feeding America, Claire built a distinguished career in law and corporate leadership, including serving as Executive Vice President and Treasurer at Walmart. But what defines her leadership is not just her résumé — it’s her conviction.

During her tenure, Claire helped reframe the national hunger conversation by centering the voices and experiences of people facing food insecurity, elevating dignity and agency as essential to lasting solutions. Her leadership has been widely recognized, including being named one of TIME’s Women of the Year.

Claire’s work continues to shape how leaders across sectors think about trust, equity, and what it truly means to build a food secure nation.

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Former CEO of Feeding America

Gerry and Phil sit down with Virginia Witherspoon, the Executive leading Channel One Food Bank in MN.

She chairs the National Advisory Committee for Feeding America. Lawery, CEO and Chairperson – 3 Chairs, Unique Perspectives from Virginia Witherspoon.

 

What happens when one leader sees the food security system from three different vantage points at once?

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson sit down with Virginia Witherspoon to explore how legal training, local leadership, and national governance intersect in a system under pressure.

From navigating post-pandemic resource challenges to rethinking how dignity shapes service delivery, this conversation offers a rare look at how real decisions are made—and what it will take to build a stronger, more aligned national response to hunger.

Dignity is free. It costs nothing to welcome someone well, trust them, and treat them like a shopper instead of a client.

Virginia Witherspoon

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Virginia Witherspoon serves as CEO of Channel One Regional Food Bank and Chair of the National Advisory Committee for Feeding America. A trained attorney, she brings a unique blend of legal precision, operational leadership, and governance expertise to the fight against hunger. Her work is grounded in a deep commitment to dignity, data-informed decision making, and ensuring that the voices of people experiencing food insecurity shape the systems designed to serve them.

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Bridging Policy and Human Experience

Food Secure Nation welcomes Dr. Sheril Krishenbaum, a renown writer and scientist who cares deeply about this stubborn challenge of food security. A positive solution oriented scholar who brings her unique insight to both policy and practices of addressing hunger and creating food security.

Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson are joined by Dr. Sheril Kirshenbaum, a nationally recognized expert in science, policy, and governance, for a timely and deeply substantive conversation on food security in America.

At the heart of the discussion is a shared conviction: food insecurity is not a mystery—it is a systems problem. And systems problems require more than compassion or slogans; they demand understanding, alignment, and accountability.

Using the Six Dimensions of Food Security—availability, access, utilization, stability, sustainability, and agency—the conversation explores how food insecurity is shaped not by a single failure, but by the interaction of policies across nutrition, health care, workforce participation, agriculture, and state–federal partnerships. Decisions made far from kitchen tables often ripple through families’ lives in profound and unintended ways.

Dr. Kirshenbaum brings a rare dual perspective: rigorous academic research paired with firsthand experience inside federal policymaking. She highlights how well-intentioned policies—particularly around SNAP, work requirements, and benefit eligibility—can misalign with real human behavior, creating financial cliffs and administrative burdens that discourage progress rather than support it. These misalignments are not theoretical; they shape daily decisions for families trying to stay afloat.

A central theme of the episode is trust. When governments and institutions fail to deliver on promised support, the damage extends beyond immediate funding gaps. It erodes trust among families, schools, nonprofits, and community organizations—forcing systems designed for long-term stability into perpetual crisis mode. Rebuilding that trust, the conversation argues, is as critical as restoring resources.

The episode also challenges simplistic narratives about hunger. Food security, done well, is not about dependency. It is about stability, dignity, and agency—designing systems that allow people to participate fully in their families, their work, and their communities. Storytelling matters, but only when paired with measurable outcomes and policy coherence that actually improves lives.

Ultimately, this conversation reframes food security as a shared responsibility—not a choice between government or charity, but a coordinated effort where each does what it is uniquely equipped to do, and does it well.

A food secure nation is built not by good intentions alone, but by aligned systems, earned trust, and policies centered on real human outcomes.

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Dr Sheril Kirshenbaum shares her insights on Food Security.

Dr. Sheril Kirshenbaum joins the show to share her unique insights on the intersection of science, policy, and the American dinner table. As an Emmy Award-winning scientist at Michigan State University and host of the PBS series Serving Up Science, Sheril bridges the gap between rigorous academic research and the real-world decisions made in the halls of government.

In this episode, she joins Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson to dissect why food insecurity is a “systems problem” rather than a mystery. From the impact of federal SNAP policies to the critical role of institutional trust, Sheril reveals how the Six Dimensions of Food Security shape the lives of every American family. Her perspective challenges us to move beyond simple narratives and toward a food-secure nation built on dignity, agency, and measurable outcomes.

Dr. Sheril Kirshenbaum

American Science Writer and Scientist

The Six Dimensions of Food Security

Policies, programs and being people centric helps create a stable food supply chain. Scott Piggott, a farmer discusses with Gerry and Phil the realities of how programs designed to support agriculture need to be stable so our access to food is as well.

In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson lay down the framework that will guide the entire series: the Six Dimensions of Food Security.

They start by naming what most people in this work already feel in their bones: food insecurity persists not because people don’t care, not because we lack food, and not because we lack committed organizations, donors, volunteers, and public servants. Food insecurity persists because it doesn’t live in just one place. It shows up differently depending on where you stand—access, affordability, nutrition, dignity, reliability—and when we focus on only one piece, we might make progress, but we rarely make it last.

That’s the point of the six dimensions: not to tell people what to think, but to help all of us think better—to step back, see the whole system, and understand where misalignment creates gaps families can fall through.

Gerry walks through the six dimensions in plain language:

  • Availability – Is there food at all?
  • Access – If it exists, can you reach it and afford it?
  • Utilization – Is it the right food for your life, culture, and health—and can you actually use it?
  • Agency – Do you have the capacity, choice, and control to turn what’s available into food security for your household?
  • Stability – Will it be there when I need it?
  • Sustainability – Will it be there as long as it’s needed?

A key insight lands hard: we need solutions in each dimension, and we must design any solution with all six dimensions in mind. Build a grocery store? Great—unless it’s unaffordable, unreachable, culturally mismatched, too complex to use, unstable, or dependent on fragile funding.

Phil and Gerry make it memorable with two analogies: a marching band (you can’t build a band out of only tubas) and a football team (a great quarterback without a line gets crushed). Translation: your lane matters—but your lane isn’t the whole road.

The episode closes with the heart of the show’s mission: communities become food secure when strong efforts stop operating in isolation and partners understand how their work fits together. The next episodes bring experts to each dimension—starting with Claire Babineaux-Fontenot on Agency, then voices like Stacy Dean and Dr. Dawn Opel to deepen the conversation.

Food for Thought: You don’t have to do everything to create a food secure community, but everything does have to get done. The question is: Which dimension am I strongest in, and who do I need beside me for the rest?

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Scott Piggott shares his insights on Food Security.

As the Executive Director of the Michigan Corn Growers Association and a veteran leader in agricultural policy, Scott brings over 20 years of expertise to our discussion on the Stability of our food systems.

He joins the show to talk about how policies designed to support farmers are the bedrock of a reliable food supply chain for every American household. From his work with the Michigan Farm Bureau to his role on the Food Bank Council of Michigan, Scott reveals why a stable agricultural framework is essential to moving from awareness to bold action.

Scott Piggott

Executive Director of the Michigan Corn Growers Association

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