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Episode 16: If We’re Serious About Outcomes, Partnership Isn’t Optional
In this episode of Food Secure Nation, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson sit down with Brian McGrain, Executive Director of Michigan Community Action, for a conversation that models the kind of collaboration required to move to the next frontier of food security. Together, they explore how Community Action Agencies and food banks—alongside schools, health systems, and workforce partners—must move beyond parallel efforts and into coordinated, community-driven solutions.
"People don’t experience our programs—they experience whether life works."
— Brian McGrain
About the Episode
At the center of the conversation is a defining truth: families do not experience our systems separately—they experience whether life works. When systems are disconnected, people are left to navigate the gaps. But when leaders align their strengths, they can blend those systems into coordinated solutions that meet real-life needs.
This episode is an example of what it looks like to lead beyond organizational boundaries—activating the six dimensions of food security in practice, not theory—and a challenge to leaders everywhere: if the goal is real outcomes, then partnership isn’t a strategy. It’s a requirement.
Through expert interviews and data-driven insights, we shed light on real solutions that address the heart of hunger, leveraging our decades of leadership to inform the next generation of impact.
Meet the Hosts
As the architects of the Know Better Do Better ecosystem, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson utilize their podcast to move the needle on food security.
Leveraging their extensive backgrounds in food bank leadership, they host the informed conversations necessary to spark change. By uniting diverse perspectives and highlighting innovative tech, they are providing the roadmap for communities to move beyond immediate relief and toward a food-secure future.
About the Show
Having spent their careers at the helm of nationally recognized food bank organizations, Dr. Phil Knight and Gerry Brisson are no longer just managing hunger, they are architecting its end.
On the Food Secure Nation podcast, they bring that expertise to the table, facilitating the critical conversations required to unite leaders and local changemakers. By bridging the gap between national strategy and community-level execution, Phil and Gerry are turning collective knowledge into the credible solutions that define the next generation of impact.
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